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uh-0hh
10cm Bream



Australia
33 Posts

Member No: #2510

Posted - 11 Mar 2010 :  7:36:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit uh-0hh's Homepage Send uh-0hh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey guys, im looking for a 2 piece bream rod, the choices are:
1. Shmano Raider 2 in 2-4
2. Shimano Jewel in 2-4
3. Pflueger Trion in 2-4

They are all similar price range, i can get the shimano jewle for around $135 same as the Raider 2, and The trion. Which one would you guys recommend, and what are the differences in the commponent of these rods, eg blank, guides, seat, and grips? Are cork grips better?

Im getting into all this and it is so addictive.


Thanks for the help guys

PS i caught my pb bream last weeks 37cm to the fork on a powerbait power grub..yay will post pcitures up soon.

regards

fisherman
40cm Bream



Australia
853 Posts

Member No: #1900

Posted - 11 Mar 2010 :  7:39:44 PM  Show Profile Send fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Congrats on the Pb bream mate, well done and Im looking forward to the pictures.

I own both a raider and a Trion, and they are both good value for money rods, I prefer the Trion, as i think its a bit better looking then the raider, a nicer action and has sexy split grips! I havent heard much about the jewel, but I think you will do well which ever way you go.

Fisherman
Who stole the chubby from my tackle tray....**** did!
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WizzKid
30cm Bream



Australia
375 Posts

Member No: #2070

Posted - 11 Mar 2010 :  7:50:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit WizzKid's Homepage  Click to see WizzKid's MSN Messenger address Send WizzKid a Private Message  Reply with Quote
personally i find cork grips SH*T now that i use EVA Composite grips, i also find the trions annoying with the split grip, far to long for my liking. If your after a mint little rod you cant go past raiders for value for money, their an excellent rod for breaming! The jewel is more of an outside plastic fishing rod and so forth, but i imagine it could be used for a bream stick, but the raider would suit breaming better.

Wizz
Wake up in the morning, feelin like fishing Grab my glasses im out the door, Im gunna hit this system Before I leave brush my teeth with a bottle of S-Factor Cause when I leave for the comp I aint commin back
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uh-0hh
10cm Bream



Australia
33 Posts

Member No: #2510

Posted - 11 Mar 2010 :  7:54:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit uh-0hh's Homepage Send uh-0hh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi, what do you mean by outside fishing rod? opps mistake the shimano jewle is a 1-4 not 2-4.
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fisherman
40cm Bream



Australia
853 Posts

Member No: #1900

Posted - 11 Mar 2010 :  8:08:15 PM  Show Profile Send fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think he means its more suited for offshore fishing - Ie in the ocean. Not sure how he came to the conclusion (if he did) seeings its rated under 4kg.

The trions come with 2 different grip set ups - normal and split, which one are you refering to.

take peoples oppinions with a grain of salt too, none of us are experts. Go to your local tackle shop and see which ones feel right to you.

Fisherman
Who stole the chubby from my tackle tray....**** did!

Edited by - fisherman on 11 Mar 2010 8:10:24 PM
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catchnrelease
40cm Bream



Australia
830 Posts

Member No: #1298

Posted - 11 Mar 2010 :  8:26:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit catchnrelease's Homepage Send catchnrelease a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Jewel's and Raider II's are essentially the same rod with a different grip. I would take the Jewel over the Raider II.
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beats
30cm Bream

Australia
421 Posts

Member No: #509

Posted - 11 Mar 2010 :  8:33:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit beats's Homepage Send beats a Private Message  Reply with Quote
take a reel & fit them all up, go to carpark & test them all, if the tackle shop won't let you don't deal with them !
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Billfish
Administrator



Australia
2977 Posts

Member No: #5

Posted - 11 Mar 2010 :  9:17:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Billfish's Homepage Send Billfish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's what feels good to you and suits the need that you want to use it for, everyone has a different feel and what feels good to me won't necessarily feel good to you. As Beats said, take your reel to the shop and try them all before you buy.

For what it's worth, if I were to choose one of the rodds mentioned, I would go with the Pflueger Trion, but that's just my opinion.

Cheers

Bill.
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cowancreekdave
30cm Bream

Australia
150 Posts

Member No: #2357

Posted - 11 Mar 2010 :  10:19:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit cowancreekdave's Homepage Send cowancreekdave a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I only have one of those, but I love my trion 2-4 to bits. Great rod!

Black - 39cm
Yellow - 40cm
Trev - 45cm
Enjoying yourself - priceless
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Jayro
30cm Bream

Australia
157 Posts

Member No: #1832

Posted - 16 Mar 2010 :  7:53:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jayro's Homepage Send Jayro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
you serious WIZZ? Cork grips SH#T????? Hmmmm you come out with some doooooozzies lol Mate like most the boys have said. Go check em out. once you feel them you will know straight away what one your comfy with and what one feels "right"
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WizzKid
30cm Bream



Australia
375 Posts

Member No: #2070

Posted - 16 Mar 2010 :  8:52:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit WizzKid's Homepage  Click to see WizzKid's MSN Messenger address Send WizzKid a Private Message  Reply with Quote
go pick up a rod with camo eva, and fish with it jase. you will feel comfort then

Wizz
Wake up in the morning, feelin like fishing Grab my glasses im out the door, Im gunna hit this system Before I leave brush my teeth with a bottle of S-Factor Cause when I leave for the comp I aint commin back
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Jayro
30cm Bream

Australia
157 Posts

Member No: #1832

Posted - 16 Mar 2010 :  9:01:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jayro's Homepage Send Jayro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I make both kinds, and fish with both kinds mate and i like em both. I certainly wouldnt say one was shyt. Personally think they are both very nice to fish with. Anyhow each to their own wizz.
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leelee
Stonker



Australia
1152 Posts

Member No: #409

Posted - 16 Mar 2010 :  10:20:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit leelee's Homepage Send leelee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a few rods from years gone by with cork and eva's and its down to what you like.

The cork on the HLZ's is awesome and is so much better to fish with then any other cork rod I have used for bream. Then again most people would not fish with them because they don't really know what a HLZ is or how it was made or who actually made it. Was it mass produced or custom made by the best anglers in Japan. I wonder. I have a custom offshore stick with top grade cork and its so good to fish with.

Problem is most people only like what is in fashion and not what suits your budget nor your taste in what you actually like. Its not what other actually like that is important, it is what you like. Don't be a sheep.

Cheers

Lee

Two fish swim into a concrete wall.
The one turns to the other and
says, "Dam!"

N.B Boat picture removed so as not to upset any more people :-)
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catchnrelease
40cm Bream



Australia
830 Posts

Member No: #1298

Posted - 16 Mar 2010 :  11:07:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit catchnrelease's Homepage Send catchnrelease a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cork or EVA, who cares? As long as it feels good. Either way, it's the blank that's the most important bit. That's the main focus.
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